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How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:02 pm

Well I was thinking and I found an idea how to make nations harder to conquer. There will still be rebels, but not as much. So here is my idea:
We can place random kingdoms over the map so we can't just invade a unorganized settlement with ease. The kingdoms won't be all gigantically huge except if at that time they were (i.e. Egypt, Russian Kingdoms, Balkan Kingdoms, etc.), but some will be small (i.e. German states, Italian states, Iberian, and French settlement).

This will make the campaign much harder and enjoyable so we don't just all eat up the map.

Your probably saying though, "'What happens when a new player wants to take the place where a 'fake' kingdom is at. Easy, we just give it to them. We'll act as if it went into a rebellion (no money will be needed to fight anti-player rebels or money for damaged buildings). Also, we'll edit them historically when that country was destroyed or taken over.

List of "fake" countries(I tried to make it historical - http://neatnik2009.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/europe-map-1300.jpg [it is around the early 1300s - there won't be that many kingdoms by the way Very Happy]

Baltic Kingdoms (I have made some fake names because of so many damn small nations and combined them under a relevant name):
Kingdom of Denmark (yellow)
Kingdom of Sweden (blue)
Kingdom of Norway (red - has territories in the Shetland islands too)
Poland (neon green)
Grand Duchy of Lithuania (pink)
Duchy of Finland (light blue)
Principalities of Southern Russia (purple)
United Novgorod Nations (dark blue)
Principalities of Russia (orange)

England/Atlantic Islands:
Kingdom of Scotland (green)
Kingdom of the Men of the Baron's alliance (dark blue)
Principality of Wales (pink)
Ireland Tribes (light green)
Iceland (purple)

Western Europe:
Crown of Castile (yellow)
Crown of Aragon (purple)
Austrian Kingdom (olive)
Kingdom of Hungary (brown)
Duchy of Serbian and Bosnia (cyan)

Eastern Europe:
Galacia (manila)
Khante of Nogai (light pink)
Kingdom of Georgia (dark green)
Byzantine Empire (light purple)

Anatolia and Middle East:
Mamulk Empire (light brown)
Illkante (robin blue)
Hasfid Caliphate of Tunis (light green)
Mali Empire (yellow)

Other things we can do:
I could make like an all "fake nations" thread and I would add all their population, trade rights, and the way they think of other nations. They could wage war (only if the nation at that time was really pissed off at you- i.e. Lithuania and TO, Leo-Castile and Moors). I won't attack constantly, only just to spice up the game. Also, I would add their religion and if they're passive or aggressive

What do you think? I made a map of it- you can edit it if you wish:

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Doyler on Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:13 pm

Yeah, great idea, make it more daunting for new players Wink
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:45 pm

Doyler wrote:Yeah, great idea, make it more daunting for new players Wink

Just a suggestion. I didn't really care if it happened.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by om noml on Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:48 pm

Make them smaller. I sure as crud don't want to be facing that big of a spanish nation. They could go on the offensive and turn me into a christian spaniard nation.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:52 pm

om noml wrote:Make them smaller. I sure as crud don't want to be facing that big of a spanish nation. They could go on the offensive and turn me into a christian spaniard nation.

Oh I will, this is just the "beta" of the whole thing.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by om noml on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:14 pm

It could work with tweaking.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Jakev2 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:32 pm


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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Mik on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:45 pm

Dammit I though my prob with Egypt was done now they surround me...
Good idea though, but you killed Lithuania a few days ago Wink
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:07 pm

Well I'll tweak it guys. It is not like I'm going to make them this big all the time. This is just a beta: I'll make it more fair for all of us.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:14 pm



Edited it what do you think now?

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Mik on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:31 pm

Hmm good but Zollum seems to be in a bad position fir expanding, maybe the pink nation not surrounding completely?
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by om noml on Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:45 am

Better. I'll say yes except for the Icelandic faction. The most that would have been there would have been a colony.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:20 pm

Okay I'll make a newer version tomorrow.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by notredamefan on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:56 am

HAVE I NOT BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS THE ENTIRE TIME?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't see the picture, but make bigger nations! Just because someone doesn't want to face a big nation doesn't mean they shouldn't have to. No offense om noml, but capturing Iberia shouldn't be a walk in the park.


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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Doyler on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:09 am

notredamefan wrote:HAVE I NOT BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS THE ENTIRE TIME?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To yourself, yes, to the wider community... not really?
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by notredamefan on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:10 am

No to the community.....
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:36 am

This will make it funner. Its not like I'm going to just make all nations attack you, I'll try to follow historical references.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Tesla on Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:11 am

Jakev2 wrote:

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:56 pm

om noml wrote:Better. I'll say yes except for the Icelandic faction. The most that would have been there would have been a colony.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Doyler on Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:57 pm

Cookie, did you vote? If you did, it doesn't count. Or else someone else must vote.
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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Jakev2 on Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:36 am

I disagree with tis, having loads of new nations on the map will confuse new players, as they won't know where they can and can't make their nations. Just use basic knowledge, to say what NPC faction you are attacking when you do a campaign, rather than clogging up the map.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by c00ki3 on Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:53 am

Well its tied 3-3 since my vote doesn't count.

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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Thracius on Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:57 am

You get this all wrong Jakev, we can have our cake, and eat it too.
Erm, I mean We can have our regular map, just below it post the NPC map so we can look as see what Nation is in that area.

Also your vote does count


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Re: How to make Harder Campagins

Post by Doyler on Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:01 am

Thracius wrote:You get this all wrong Jakev, we can have our cake, and eat it too.
Let them eat cake.
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