Proposition: Conscript System

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Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:45 pm

Proposition: Conscript System

Okay so while I was fighting Thracius I realized something. Every town I pass I will face 5000 armed and trained men. Now that just doesn't make sense.

We should have a limit on conscripts. Your manpower, or force limits. If not it basically defeats the purpose of the game gaining territory. Think about it. For every NPC area you take, according to this you should face upwards of 75,000 men. It gets a little ridiculous.

So I think that we should limit Conscription to x% of your population. And this won't work like---

You killed all my conscripts so here are 20,000 more. You can draw from 20,000 conscripts and once you use them all (in war time) they are done. You will be able to gain them back when you are at peace for a full year with every nation.

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Okay let's say your enemie's population is 3 million if he is to draft 5% of those men that is 150,000!!!

Isn't that a little much! 1% is 30,000. Now that seems more reasonable.

1.5% is a huge gain 45,000 so choose carefully.


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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Jakev2 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:46 pm

0.1%, and they should all be Q2.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:06 pm

Since there is no 1.5% option, I say 2% (to make it more realistic). Also, if it is an NPC's last area (or a real nation's last area), it should be 3%. The troops, to represent being poorly trained but desperate, should be Q2 or Q3.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Doyler on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:10 pm

Hmm. Why is there a "no conscripts/no pulling troops outta yer arse" option?
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:18 pm

There isn't one. I don't know where you see that.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Doyler on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:19 pm

Agammemnon wrote:There isn't one. I don't know where you see that.
Hurr durr, it seems quite obvious that I left out the "why isn't there no..."
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:22 pm

I know, I was bothering you on purpose.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Jakev2 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:22 pm

yeah, there needs to be a no conscripts option. That gets my vote.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:06 pm

No I mean you can conscript them, but they will have to be lowe quality and either Q2 and Q1 AND you have to pay them
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:29 pm

You shouldn't have to pay them, it should be "Everyone, take arms. The enemy will slaughter you all if they win. So don't let them. CHARGE!"

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:04 pm

No most peasants would run like hell. Or try to just accept new rule and not fight.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:15 pm

Not if the new rule was guaranteed to kill them. Most guys would grab a shovel and charge screaming their heads off. At least I would. Dwarf Soldier Dwarf

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:19 pm

You'd be surprised what'd most people would do, even some that claim the opposite.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by om noml on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:34 pm

Depends on the size of the nation. For a smally, 1.5% wouldn't be horribly unfair. Me or italy? That would be unfair. We would get enough men to have a bloody counterarmy.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:37 pm

It goes based on a population, so it makes sense.

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The Canary Islands Nation shouldn't have as many conscripts as the Castille Nation because the Castilleans have a larger pool of people to draw from.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by om noml on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:38 pm

I reckon so...

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Thracius on Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:17 pm

notredamefan wrote:You'd be surprised what'd most people would do, even some that claim the opposite.

You gotta realize people have alot to lose here, most able bodied people in this era would indeed fight.

It's quite obvious they would take up arms especially against a faction such as yours whos known for massacring, indeed if you were to siege a city there would be no doubt the whole city would rise against you, this is historical accurate in instances.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:28 pm

I know that all of Scotland will...

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Doyler on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:11 pm

notredamefan wrote:No most peasants would run like hell. Or try to just accept new rule and not fight.
Well, if the invading faction was of a more lenient taxewise/policy-wise/shared a language/trying to reclaim that land/same religion, then they would be accepting of the rulers.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:16 pm

Yes, but not if... What I have already said. If the new rule was going to make life worse, basically. Or end life.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:22 pm

Okay then like's work it like that. My people will all fight if invaded. That is 1 million conscripts.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:34 pm

You know what I mean. Most of the able-bodied men would join to save their country from an enemy. Also, nations should have some kind of bonus. Like they get more conscripts if it is their last area to take, or if they are a certain kind of faction. For example, logic would dictate that a country like Scotland would have many men who would fight for their land. A pirate nation, however, would have few conscripts, as pirates usually care only for themselves, and would run away if it meant they would live. That is only my opinion, and it would be hard to incorporate, but that is my idea.

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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by notredamefan on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:41 pm

Well then everyone is going to say this "No my people are loyal they will stay and fight" Case in point you and I. I have written a new system check it out.
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Re: Proposition: Conscript System

Post by Rex Alexandros on Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:04 pm

Okay. I will check it out.

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